Curse

U Wanna Die · Jan 22, 2008, 11:35 AM // 11:35

I had the idea of adding rare minipets to the Zaishen Chest. Most Minipets such as Certadon, Greased Lightning, etc. people can't get any more. I think it is unfair that only certain people could get these and only certain areas. Panda was only offered to Taiwan, but I want one. So this would be cool, or you could randomly give gifts in-game that contain a random minipet. Maybe 1,000 people in each area at the first of every month (America, Europe, etc.) get an item in their inventory that says, "Monthly prize" or "Special Prize." I also would request one of these for the great suggestion (*cough* Kanaxai). Thank You for reading my post.

Edit: Read over all of the posts and here is my argument.

My system isn't so that 1,00 people a month get Kanaxais or that everydrop in the Zaishen Chest is a Vizu, No! My argument is that there maybe 1 Kanaxai in 3 months of giveaways, and the chance of getting Kanaxai in the Zaishen Chest is the same as getting a req8 Crystalline. With the Zaishen Chest method people would earn the pet. They earn the keys by getting factions, or farming to buy them. I never put anywhere that the rare minipets would be handed out. My suggestion keeps them rare, but makes it possible for them to be had. For you people who say go and earn it, even if i did farm 24/7 for 365 days and got the money where do I find it? Who is selling? The point was to make them more available, not to give out a million and change the entire economy. For the people who /notsign they generally say the same thing, "Earn It!" I have been playing as long as you guys and I know what your saying, but the people who have been playing for years i expected better of you. How can u be naive? They are rare and they cost a lot, but they don't help the economy if you can't afford or even find it. I just hit the two year mark on one of my characters and both b-days he got whites. I participated in the Asura and Gray Giant minipet zine things. I sold both for under 25k each when they came out. There were hundreds of thousands, but I never got the chance to get a Panda or a Kanaxai. How do you earn those? You say people won tournaments to get those, but what if im not in a good gvg guild, what if i don't like pvp? Then what? A lot of you also said that this isn't an item based game! I beg to differ. If it isn't an item based game then why are mini's 8000k+. If it isnt item based then why do people care to have them so much! My point isnt to give away rare minipets to every player in guild wars, but to change it so instead of trying to find the 20 that exist you have a chance to get one in the chest. My goal would be that in six months maybe ten more would exist, or twenty more. If you look at Crystalline Swords they are still worth hundreds of thousands of gold, but they still fall out of the zaishen chest. I believe that even if i wanted to earn a mini kanaxai i couldn't, and thats why i believe this is fair.

Kyrein · Jan 22, 2008, 11:48 AM // 11:48

i agree, its unfair that some people get it free by random chance and we have to buy it off them for like 1mil+ because there is no other way to get it because it was 1 time only

RotteN · Jan 22, 2008, 11:53 AM // 11:53

adding minipets to the zaishen chest would be nice. Can't be hard to replace at least some of the creme brulee/firewater with a minipet :P

a mini zaishen general or a mini Guild Lord as unique minipet from the chest would be nice aswell. much like the mini Ghostly Hero in HoH

Phoenix Tears · Jan 22, 2008, 12:21 PM // 12:21

either this, or give us more quest like stuff, like for the black moa chick ...

or sell them as minipet-packs in o-store (auto dedicated to your hom when bought)

or more promotion mags with these minipets and not ever with somethign total new then, like you made with asura, grey... and ceratodon

4million+ players.. but only 100-1000 of these minipets ingame isnt fair .... all minipets should be able to collect by everyone....

get rid of these ridiculous insane high prices fro these minipets, which can pay only gold buyers and farm botters or people with no life at all.... NO minipet should cost more than 100 Platin...

I'd be also for the idea of implementing ingame some TRADERS, which trade for you in minipets, when you bring them stuff they want for them ...

this way those npcs's become also a bit more interesting...because i personally find trader npc#s totally uninteesstign, they trade only the boringst weapon skins and wow..u can trade armors...just to spare up some money and mats wow...thats only interestign for the perma poor noobs, but once you got some money and know where to farm....why bother further with those dumb traders when they offer you absolutely nothing of REAL interest...

legion_rat · Jan 22, 2008, 12:54 PM // 12:54

/signed for OP

It would be nice to get what wasnt available.

~the rat~

Zydonis · Jan 22, 2008, 12:56 PM // 12:56

When will people learn that when everything is given to them, it doesn't mean anything?

/unsigned

Phoenix Tears · Jan 22, 2008, 01:04 PM // 13:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zydonis

When will people learn that when everything is given to them, it doesn't mean anything?

/unsigned

when will people like you learn not to be so selfish ? We play all the same game, so we should also be all able to enjoy everything from the games content ... regardless what it is

Why give the game minipets at all, when Anet mades it then impossible to the players to collect them all, when you want to collect all >.> this is senseless ...

I'm sure u posted the unsign only, because you own one of these rare minipets...

Zydonis · Jan 22, 2008, 01:20 PM // 13:20

Selfish? If I want something in game, I -work- for it, just like life.

And the only mini I have ever kept is the Ceratadon.

Now enough attempting to flame, I stated my opinion.

Benster · Jan 22, 2008, 01:30 PM // 13:30

/unsigned

I own no rare minipets... only a handful of 1st birthday ones that I received or bought.

You have an opportunity to get plenty of minipets at reasonable prices... If you want the ultra-rare ones, then you can work for them and earn them. Besides, Anet has made them available through contests as a matter of luck for those who don't want to save up and buy them.

The in-game economy depends on rarity of certain items. Sure, everyone wants one of everything--particularly rare items--but if Anet simply makes every rare item available to every player then the in-game economy disappears. Part of the point of an MMO is to create a world in which to immerse yourself. Part of that world is the in-game economy. Destroying the in-game economy seriously detracts from the experience of the game.

I would like a mini-panda or Zhed as much as the next guy, but there is a larger priority at issue here. Anet doesn't deserve to take flak from players who complain about unfair treatment: "I'm not getting as much for my money as the guy with a mini-Kanaxia". When you buy the game you are paying for the missions and the immersive-world experience; not for the opportunity to collect every item in the game. If you want that sort of experience, go invest in a Nintendo DS and a Pokemon game.

Phoenix, I'm concerned that you need to have every mini to enjoy the game's content. Besides, does having an item sitting in your inventory or Xunlai chest really constitute in-game content? The mini-pets are fun perks, but essentially do nothing. Go play through a few missions with a novelty build... Or try doing Forum Highlands hardmode and agro as many Heket and Harpies as you can at once and see if you can survive.... Don't base your enjoyment of the game on novelty items. You'll feel a lot more satisfied.

Kyrein · Jan 22, 2008, 01:44 PM // 13:44

but is it fair that someone can do one run and get a mini polar bear, and someone can spend the whole event doing the dungeon and never getting a single one? the lucky one now never has to farm for the rest of his GW life, he can buy a couple sets of FoW armor, the other guy gets nothing for his time, and now the polar bears are unattainable
what about when theyre all dedicated?
none for anybody else except the extremely lucky people with one

Benster · Jan 22, 2008, 01:52 PM // 13:52

I agree with you to a point... Like I said, I wish I had rare minis as much as the next guy.

I think my point was more to the larger issue of what the game is really about. As much as you might want one, is it really necessary to have every single mini to enjoy the game for its content?

I guess I just prefer to enjoy the game for what it is instead of finding things to complain about. I've been playing GW for about 2 years and have enjoyed every minute of it, and feel as though my ~$200 was well spent. I could chose to say "hey, I don't have a mini-Zhed. Anet ripped me off; I want my $200 back." Or I can just go play the game and have fun.... That's the point I was trying to make. At the end of the say, do you need every single mini? I have all but the rare 1st b-day ones and a few extras... That is quite a few. Do I need all of them to enjoy the game.... Hells no.

If you differ in opinion, that is fine... I don't expect everyone to agree with me... But I think I'm enjoying the game a lot more than some others because at the end of the day I'm in it for fun and not for competitive collecting.

Kyrein · Jan 22, 2008, 01:59 PM // 13:59

do people enjoy farming?
not really
do you need to farm when you can simply sell a minipet for several million?
no

therefore you get more enjoyment out of the game whilst still having the equipment you want

pamelf · Jan 22, 2008, 02:00 PM // 14:00

/signed. It's a one in a million chance it would drop anyway, but it's nice to at least have that, a CHANCE.

Kyrein · Jan 22, 2008, 02:04 PM // 14:04

and that is all we are asking for......

MithranArkanere · Jan 22, 2008, 02:17 PM // 14:17

Hm... and what if they actually drop form there already? XD

MirkoTeran · Jan 22, 2008, 04:30 PM // 16:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zydonis

When will people learn that when everything is given to them, it doesn't mean anything?

/unsigned

Agreed.

This 'gimme-everything-now-lol-kkthxbye' community is making me sick.

/notsigned if you haven't figured it out.

Earth · Jan 22, 2008, 04:32 PM // 16:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by MirkoTeran

Agreed.

This 'gimme-everything-now-lol-kkthxbye' community is making me sick.

/notsigned if you haven't it figured out.

QFT.

/unsigned.

Anduin · Jan 22, 2008, 04:44 PM // 16:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zydonis

When will people learn that when everything is given to them, it doesn't mean anything?

/unsigned

I read every post in the thread, and not once did someone say "give me everything free please". Where do you people pull this crap out of?

He wants a chance to get something that he otherwise has no chance of getting. It doesn't have to be a big chance, which means Balthazar faction farming, chest running, rinse and repeat over and over again for a tiny chance that he may get something.

I am getting sick to death of the "work for it, no handouts" comments from the select few who fail to realize that they would be working for it. Are you really that stupid?

Besides, this is a game. If i wanted to grind for stuff, I do enough of it in real life.

Oh, and minipets are one of the dumbest things that have been added to the game.

MirkoTeran · Jan 22, 2008, 04:52 PM // 16:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anduin

He wants a chance to get something that he otherwise has no chance of getting. It doesn't have to be a big chance, which means Balthazar faction farming, chest running, rinse and repeat over and over again for a tiny chance that he may get something.

He has a same chance as everyone else. Earn some gold/ectos and buy it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anduin

Besides, this is a game. If i wanted to grind for stuff, I do enough of it in real life.

GW is not a item-stat based game. More or less all items are only for looks. And this is a prime example of them. If you want a rare one work for it. If not get a cheaper one. It does the same.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anduin

Oh, and minipets are one of the dumbest things that have been added to the game.

Here I fully agree with you.

NND · Jan 22, 2008, 04:58 PM // 16:58

/notsigned

for all those reasons posted above